Ead Theatermaster 8000 Pro Manual
Item DescriptionI'm Greg Palma. Welcome to Noble Electronics home of Noble high-end modifications and original designs. We are also the only authorized Enlightened Audio Design (EAD) Service Center and all our employees were EAD pioneers!
We offer our experience and knowledge to all makes of audio and video gear.For more of our history please see belowWe are dedicated to improving the sound quality of your individual Home Theater Processors, Players, and Two Channel systems by implementing innovative techniques and designs to create a more natural audio playback experience. We work with all makes and models including the EAD line. We also work with EAD based Simaudio Moon Attraction and Legacy Nexstep. Recently, some enjoyable Mods for us include: Audio Logic, Audio Horizons, Cary Audio, Hovland, Proceed and Thor. We use the highest quality components available and we also develop our own custom components.Our original designs include Noble 200 Two Channel Audiophile Amplifier, AC Line Power DNA, DC buss DNA (Dissipative Noise Attenuation) Circuits, Power DNA Circuits, Digital and Analog Precise Interconnects, and Custom Silver/Teflon/Natural Cloth Interboard Interconnects. Balanced Input and Output circuits.We run a small R & D and light design and manufacturing company.
We have collectively over 40 years of electronic design and manufacturing experience. Our background has its roots in the Aerospace design philosophy-design it with quality components, solder it with NASA flight standard for electrical connections, pre test, then Burn-in and finally post test the unit.
Greg Palma is also a Opera Singer, Bass Baritone and Thom Banks is a jazz guitarist and percussionist. Music is a important part of our lives. Either in our own live performaces or thru recorded media, we have an ear for what sounds best. We are open to suggestions for custom designs that will enhance your system. I look forward to hearing from you.Wishing you happy Listening and a prosperous 2012.New and Classics from Noble:Noble Sonic TreatmentWe have developed a new method for improving the sonic characteristics for all gear: Noble Sonic Treatment. Any part of your AV system can be treated by this unique system. These include Pre-amps, Amps, Processors, AV Receiver, speaker drivers, caps, tubes and valves, wire and connectors just to name a few.
If some part of your system is still not sounding as you would like, this may help raise it to a better standard. I am having good results with this system on a variety of pieces. We are hearing contempletive, dimensional results. Note: This is not done in a Cryo treatment chamber. It is a method that I have developed which is safe for all components. $150.Selective Silver, Gold Plating.
We are now offering selective precious metal plating for connector pins and sockets, IEC power Inlet connectors, fuse holders, Power Cord, sockets and plugs, certain types of switch contacts and more. Please inquire about other precious metals.Preventative Electrolytic Capacitor Replacement This is important! We are starting to recommend replacement of all electrolytic capacitors as a preventative measure due to the age of some Classic units (ten years or more). Electrolytic capacitors will leak over time and can cause shorts and other problems. Also older caps electrical characteristics (such as ESR) change and this causes a diminution in overall sound quality. Some options are: We can replace all the electrolytics with standard stock capacitors or, we can do a combination of standard stock caps and critical path capacitors with Elna-SII and other audiophile grade caps.Balanced Outputs Upgrade We are now offering Balanced Outputs for Pre-Pros and CD players that only have RCA single-ended analog outputs.
The balanced driver circuitry is wired using 99.9999 pure silver wire and Teflon sleeving, terminating in a pair of male panel-mount XLR connectors with gold pins. Single-ended outputs are retained. More infoBalanced Analog Inputs Upgrade We are now offering Balanced Inputs for Pre-Pros and amplifiers that only have single-ended RCA analog inputs. This includes the addition of a balanced input circuitry, using 99.9999 pure silver wire and Teflon sleeving and terminating into gold-plated female panel-mount XLRs connectors.more infoNoble-Modified Ultra High Precision Resistor Modules Noble has developed ultra-precise Vishay resistor modules with a TCR of + 0.05PPM.
Noble UHPR modules have cryogenically-treated 99.9999% solid core pure silver wire solder leads and a thin Teflon PTFE resistor casing. Built to improve of the sonic signature in any critical audio path, Noble makes Vishay's latest UHP technology practical and available to the audiophile.
More infoTheaterMaster 8/8000 8 Channel output Mod. This Mod will add 6 (true) balanced outputs for the Surrounds, ES, Center, and both Subs, which are currently only single-ended RCA outputs. Call for details.Sony DVP-S7700 DVD Player Mods. This is an excellent sounding unit even before my modifications. I recommend this to those that want a combo DVD Player/CD Transport. I can add all of my mods to this player including my new AC Line DNA.Music Servers Mods are now available. Call for details.Audio Upgrades are available to all makes and models, Call for details.New TheaterMaster Remote ControlMX350 Touchscreen Universal Remote for the TheaterMaster e/o/s (5.1) or TheaterMaster 8/8000.
This remote is set up in a similar way to the Sunwave SRC-2000/-2010/-7000 remotes which were supplied with the later EAD models. We have the programmed MX350 buttons logically for ease of use. $260.Op Amp Upgrade for TM Classic, DSP-9000/7000/1000. Upgrade the two sections of the output section of your DAC with Burr-Brown op amps with a high performance, low noise and ultra low distortion.The Noble-200 Signature.
Low-profile, dual-channel audiophile amplifierNoble-200Balanced input Mod for PM500, PM1000, TM8800 Analog Pass-Thru (Analog Direct). Call for details.Printed Wiring Upgrade and Solder Alloy Upgrade for PM500, PM1000, PM2000, PM8300.
Ead Theatermaster 8000 Pro Manual 2017
Call for details.A new style of Power DNA/LPF for all makes and models of equipment-AC Line Power DNA/LPFNew Article: Audiophile - The Quintessential Aesthetic ListenerThree posts on Constantine Soo's Dagogo site:Rocket Science applied to Extreme AudioReview of Boelen/Noble Mod of TM Ovation PlusReview of Digital-Precise.
I have the new Theatermaster 8800. The unit really is amazing. It is very transparent and open. The surround proccessing is the best I have heard.However, it may be too revealing for my system. I have only had it about two weeks, so I guess it is still breking in.I also have an Anthem AVM-20, and and EAD Ovation. The ANthem definitely provides a lot of bang for the buck, but I think it sounds much more digital, and much less transparent than the 8800.The Ovation is great, but definitely is starting to show its age a little if you ask me.Also, I am not going to keep all three pre/pros, but I am still deciding. I'm also interested in your comparison of the 8800 and the Ovation.
I believe the Ovation/Signature was considered one of the best sounding (for 2 channel) HT preamps around. How does the 8800 sound compared to your Ovation? I'm currently using a Signature 8 (equivalent to the 8000pro) but am itching to upgrade. If only the StudioPro would finally ship.Btw, jjtoma, I think their were more EAD folks here at one time. But when EAD released the upgrades to the Signature and Ovation line, many felt the upgrade to the 8 made 2 channel a little worst (I think it was minimal but do agree it was a downgrade for 2 channel). Then instead of giving us a new product, EAD just made minor changes for the 8000 series. Now the 8800 series comes out with new dacs and a few other features.
But I think many past EAD users have jumped ship. I'm still holding on hoping that the 8800 or studiopro will be as great as their Ovation/Signature line.Andy. I have had the TheaterMaster 8800 for about 3 weeks. Here are some of my observations:1. The surround sound proccessing is the best I have ever heard. It is incredible transparent and the movement of the sound between the speakers in seamless.
It is very natural sounding, and the detials that it picks up in movie soundtracks is amazing. I am hearing a lot of things that are not there on the Ovation.2. The two channel stero is better than the Ovation's. It is far more dynamic and transparent. When doing an A/B comparison (I still have my Ovation), the 8800 wins, but the Ovation considering its age is still a very good performer. However, I am really spoiled in 2 channel music because I have a GRanite Audio 657 CD Player, which in my opinion is the finest piece of equipment I have evr used.3.
The analog bypass does not need a cable, but has RCA jacks on the back of the unit. I haven't listened to this much as my Granite 657 connects directly to my monoblocks and sounds better than going throught the 8800.4. The A/D converters in the unit are much better than what was in the Ovation.
I have a EAD Theatervision DVD player and the analog output of the DVD player through the 8800's A/D converters sounds almost the same as when the 8800 is decoding the digital signal.5. The interface of the 8800 is the same as the Ovation's with a few minor changes, but the new MArantz remote is great once you get used to it.6. I also have an ANthem AVM-20 (which is for sale), and in direct A/B comparisons of the 8800 and the Anthem, the 8800 is superior. Anthem gives you a lot of bang for the buck, but the sound to me is more digital sounding.7. The software needs some work though, as there are still a number of bugs in it. The CinEq function does not work, and shifting between the different soundfileds can be troublesome.
Dolby Dital and DTS work great though. Pro Logic II is OK, it is better than the earlier Pro Logic, but I am still not that impressed.That's it for now, if there is anything else anyone would like to know, I will be glad to give you my take on it. Hi Everybody!!JJtoma emailed me and asked me to provide some experience since i've had my 8800 pro from a while now. I upgraded from an Ovation-8 with TM8000pro software and had the latest firmware release before I upgraded. Here are my initial comments after a few months with the 8800pro.
My comments are as follows:(1) In terms of sonics, the unit is absolutely outstanding and a significant improvement over the Ovation-8. I've listened to a ton of A/V receivers and remain convinced that the EAD folks have it right. Not quite as glitzy as some of the other, pricier units.but sonically can't be beat!!(2) The overall operation has been simplified a bit from the Ovation-8. The manual, for example, is maybe a quarter as long or detailed. Basically, once everything is set.you simply choose your source. If the source is transmitting Dolby Digital EX.the unit locks this automatically.
If the source is transmitting Stereo.you can choose between PLII - Music mode or PLII - Movie mode. Very nice indeed.(3) In terms of video switching operation.I'm not the person to discuss this. I use a dedicated scaler which switches my sources.As with all new products, there have been a few minor bugs. As has been my experience in the past, Alastair Roxburgh and Steve Holt have been responsive to feedback and are working on fixes. The problems have been:(1) The gain is down from the Ovation-8 by several db in a couple of formats. For most, this will be no problem at all.but it has been a bit of a problem for me.because my Innersound 800W monoblocks are fairly low in gain.and my Martin Logan CLS IIz's are pretty low in sensitivity. I understand that the next software update addresses this and adds back some gain.(2) There are a couple of minor software programming glitches.
I use a somewhat unorthodox setup with only a single rear surround speaker in the center (6.1). The TM8800pro can handle this setup perfectly.but in the software, the L and R rear channels were reversed.so the programming sequence for this mode would not work perfectly.
I found a temporary fix until the new software is released.(3) When the TM8800pro locks a DD EX signal.it seems not to allow a downmix to Stereo. With the Ovation-8 or TM8000 pro.I could then hit the Stereo button.and it would downmix to Stereo. This was convenient for headphone listening of 5.1 material. I understand that this will be corrected in the next software update.Those are the main things. Despite the expectable glitches from a new product.i can't say enough good about the folks at EAD and their products.
Frankly, I could have chosen lots of other A/V receivers.but I know I made the right choice. If sonics are your 'thing' as they are mine, I'd recommend the EAD over Krell, Meridian and just about everything else I listened to.If any specific questions, feel free to email me at.Harry.
Harry, I agree the 8800-Pro's 2-channel sonics are very very good, and I am surprised at how pleased I am with it. As mcw120 states above, I too find it extremely transparent & dyanmcie, and toanlly well balanced. I have no problem now selling my mod'd Sim Audio Eclipse CDP.I have mucho gain for 2-channel inputs, both digital & analog.My Waveform speakers are 91db and my Sim Audio Titan amp is 33db.But I do find the HT gain potentially too low as well, so I can readily understand your gain concerns with your speaker and amp combo.I just set it up for my 7.1 HT yesterday and have discovered some major ( for me ) quirks and limitations. My unit was QC'd at the factory on Feb 17 and I have software 2.3b. I will email you in private the email I am sending off to EAD later tonight. Once I get a reply from EAD, I will post back here so others can be informed of the state of affairs with the feature set.- Andy.